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I've been trying that for months. They just get angry and louder. Pretty sure I have mutant cats lol.
I have used corporal punishment -
my most favorite cat (Simon) was a long-haired rescue cat. He was not socialized at all. I'd be petting him and suddenly he'd 'spook' and would just grab my arm and full on claw. I mean, he wouldn't let go when I shook my arm (people encouraged me to try a spray bottle and I was like, sure. I'll walk across the room with the cat clawed into my arm to retrieve a water bottle). When I shook him off, he'd fall to the floor - still on his back, claws extended. I bled (really, it was bad).

I hit him.

He stopped after about a year or two? And he slept with me every night. I loved him and his death still makes me sad.

Anyway, not endorsing violence, per se, but sometimes you do need the right adversive
 
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let's just make a pact today to not do surveys :wink:
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That's right dudee, like, don't ya know there's a qual for that? Or write 800 words for sixty cents. Yeah, this ain't hell either unless I allow you to treat me that way.
hmm anger much?
 
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I have used corporal punishment -
my most favorite cat (Simon) was a long-haired rescue cat. He was not socialized at all. I'd be petting him and suddenly he'd 'spook' and would just grab my arm and full on claw. I mean, he wouldn't let go when I shook my arm (people encouraged me to try a spray bottle and I was like, sure. I'll walk across the room with the cat clawed into my arm to retrieve a water bottle). When I shook him off, he'd fall to the floor - still on his back, claws extended. I bled (really, it was bad).

I hit him.

He stopped after about a year or two? And he slept with me every night. I loved him and his death still makes me sad.

Anyway, not endorsing violence, per se, but sometimes you do need the right adversive
Cats are known to act that way if they are ill and can't tell us. Hip aphasia (sp)comes to mind. Their whole personality immediately changes.
 

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I have used corporal punishment -
my most favorite cat (Simon) was a long-haired rescue cat. He was not socialized at all. I'd be petting him and suddenly he'd 'spook' and would just grab my arm and full on claw. I mean, he wouldn't let go when I shook my arm (people encouraged me to try a spray bottle and I was like, sure. I'll walk across the room with the cat clawed into my arm to retrieve a water bottle). When I shook him off, he'd fall to the floor - still on his back, claws extended. I bled (really, it was bad).

I hit him.

He stopped after about a year or two? And he slept with me every night. I loved him and his death still makes me sad.

Anyway, not endorsing violence, per se, but sometimes you do need the right adversive
I whacked the crap out of one of them this morning. She came into bed, put her face in my ear and yoweled. RUDE.

I love them dearly. By 9am I won't be annoyed anymore and I'll think of them and swoon. Their life is very different than how they lived for 5 years, and I get it's hard on them too. I just wish we could get through this for all of our sakes. They're otherwise very sweet cats. The girl cat sleeps in my arms all of *her* night.

And they are healthy blah blah blah. Just hate living in a bed room 85% of the time. Buuuut it's better than the dog kennels they lived in for 3 months, don't think they want that again!
 

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I will ask. I have used it for doggos before, my concern would but it would still wear off by 4am. I've used some Feliway pheromones, helps at night, not in the morning.

I've been trying cry it out this week because no roommates have been here. That is what is recommended by cat behaviorists as it seems negative reinforcement doesn't seem to work on cats. But there is clearly no end in my cats ability to make noise.
do these things work?

 

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do these things work?

I had seriously been considering it. I don't feed my cats kibble, but I thought maybe as a tiny snack it would help. I have to be careful, the little boy gets sick if he eats much kibble, doesn't sit well on his tummy. But It might be time to try it as a snack time to get me that extra hour. I wake up between 5-5:30 anyway, but they really want it to be before 5am, and that little bit is really stressful on me.
 
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Also, on a funny note, a firetruck drove through out cul-de-sac this morning and my little cat growled at it. He's so silly. He used to growl at the mail man at our old house, as they delivered it to your porch. He's hardly 7lbs. Very scary.
 

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Don't do this survey if you've taken it before. You will not be paid.
That's right dudee, like, don't ya know there's a qual for that? Or write 800 words for sixty cents. Yeah, this ain't hell either unless I allow you to treat me that way.
hmm anger much?
i was pissed yesterday bad, i sent out four somewhat angering emails to various requesters telling them how i felt about their SHORT survey that took triple what they said, and the FUN survey that was not FUN, and i told them how highly underpaid their SHORT, FUN surveys were, i then told them it would be a good idea to take those words out of the HIT description
 

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I will ask. I have used it for doggos before, my concern would but it would still wear off by 4am. I've used some Feliway pheromones, helps at night, not in the morning.

I've been trying cry it out this week because no roommates have been here. That is what is recommended by cat behaviorists as it seems negative reinforcement doesn't seem to work on cats. But there is clearly no end in my cats ability to make noise.
Call this guy:


Or the food puzzles : http://foodpuzzlesforcats.com/
 

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i was pissed yesterday bad, i sent out four somewhat angering emails to various requesters telling them how i felt about their SHORT survey that took triple what they said, and the FUN survey that was not FUN, and i told them how highly underpaid their SHORT, FUN surveys were, i then told them it would be a good idea to take those words out of the HIT description
I send an email to ALL unpaid Screeners, and I got an email back from one, who said if I READ the consent form, (You know that LONG ass thing at the beginning) there was a statement that not everyone would qualify.
 

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I send an email to ALL unpaid Screeners, and I got an email back from one, who said if I READ the consent form, (You know that LONG ass thing at the beginning) there was a statement that not everyone would qualify.
that thing at the beginning of surveys that gets longer and longer and you know it by heart but god forbid you don't read it once there's an AC instruction in there.
 
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that thing at the beginning of surveys that gets longer and longer and you know it by heart but god forbid you don't read it once there's an AC instruction in there.
Exactly...

My thing was... You only get that consent for AFTER you accept the HIT, Meaning if I do NOT qualify I have to return the HIT. A simple statement in the HIT description (Not All Will Qualify) would better.
 
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I spent this morning looking up cat behaviorists lol. There are not local, but maybe Jackson Galaxy will come to me.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and get flakey but I'm serious. We've got people going to different areas of the world and having to leave because they are ill from the unheard noises they are experiencing. Have you explored where you live? Are you near a windmill cluster? Or magnetic force waves of some kind? Something an animal close to the ground might pick up on easily and the pain cause its personality to change? We don't live in a normal whatever that was, world anymore. On the other hand, cats can be known for this behavior, hence the bad rep they have. We tamed them but only because they allowed us. Cats have socialism down to a science. Something in their environment has upset them. You said they lived in cages for a while. PTSD, they are vulnerable too.
 

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Exactly...

My thing was... You only get that consent for AFTER you accept the HIT, Meaning if I do NOT qualify I have to return the HIT. A simple statement in the HIT description (Not All Will Qualify) would better.
we used to be able to open first and read and toss back until competition or whatever amazon did made it to difficult. now i guess the only way we can protest is to throw them back and when enough people do that they'll get the message. that's why the amazon gods gave them quals. yeah, they might cost money but i bet not as much as their ruined research or inaccurate research because the p o'd too many people who answered the survey in anger instead of just tossing it back.
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and get flakey but I'm serious. We've got people going to different areas of the world and having to leave because they are ill from the unheard noises they are experiencing. Have you explored where you live? Are you near a windmill cluster? Or magnetic force waves of some kind? Something an animal close to the ground might pick up on easily and the pain cause its personality to change? We don't live in a normal whatever that was, world anymore. On the other hand, cats can be known for this behavior, hence the bad rep they have. We tamed them but only because they allowed us. Cats have socialism down to a science. Something in their environment has upset them. You said they lived in cages for a while. PTSD, they are vulnerable too.
No windmills here -- but there is this where me & savvy @savvylabell live:

Naval Station (NS) Norfolk, the world’s biggest naval base, is situated in south-eastern Virginia. The base was established in 1917 and covers an area of approximately 3,400 acres.

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Cats are known to act that way if they are ill and can't tell us. Hip aphasia (sp)comes to mind. Their whole personality immediately changes.
he was found on the streets of Boston, so I think he was probably feral. That clawing thing didn't last that long - but it sure happened more than a few times. He was so smart (my smartest cat). And after that initial 'getting over being feral' stage - he was lovely. (he was lovely then, too.....just not *always*)
 
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