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ay.. that first book is all over the place.. it doesn't make much sense til after you've read a few books, and by then it's actually pretty good.

but on first read it's like "what... wha... ....what... ok skeleton guy..?"
Yeah... I've been struggling a bit with it. So many names... so many "wait wut?" moments and then wracking my brain to try to figure out if I forgot something from earlier.
 

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Yeah... I've been struggling a bit with it. So many names... so many "wait wut?" moments and then wracking my brain to try to figure out if I forgot something from earlier.
This is how I felt when trying to get through The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. Heard people raving about how it's the peak of the fantasy genre, and I gave up about 25% of the way through
 

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ii ta something something mo su
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Okay, I already stopped turking because I was tired...but this is a sign that I just need to sleep...

I actually copied what you wrote, and tried to get Google to translate it. It wouldn't, it just did 'English to English.' So I stubbornly changed the input language to several languages, before I realized what you wrote. No joke.

On that note, goodnight everyone!
 
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This is how I felt when trying to get through The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. Heard people raving about how it's the peak of the fantasy genre, and I gave up about 25% of the way through
I'm pretty sure this will get good. But for right now it reads exactly like an archaeologist wrote it... his world building is intricate and nuanced and deep... in comparison his character building feels a little less dimensional. But right now it's such a dense read with lots to remember... my brain damage is struggling a bit with the density of the information being presented because I have no idea what is important to remember and what isn't.
 
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Yeah... I've been struggling a bit with it. So many names... so many "wait wut?" moments and then wracking my brain to try to figure out if I forgot something from earlier.
no, unlike many other books, he doesn't spend much time with introductory bullshit
book 1 is kind of a mess that way
however, every other book makes up for it.
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I think that's book one without actually ruining anything.
 
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This is how I felt when trying to get through The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. Heard people raving about how it's the peak of the fantasy genre, and I gave up about 25% of the way through
I read it when I was about 14. I think it took me two attempts. Second time round, I really enjoyed it. I hate not finishing books.
 
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no, unlike many other books, he doesn't spend much time with introductory bullshit
book 1 is kind of a mess that way
however, every other book makes up for it.
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I think that's book one without actually ruining anything.
Haha... notice how many names were there... and that's only a fraction of the names that march past. At least I know which names to concentrate on now.
 
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I read it when I was about 14. I think it took me two attempts. Second time round, I really enjoyed it. I hate not finishing books.
Yeah, usually I'll plow through anything because I figure it'll either get better later or at least I'll be able to conclusively say that I don't enjoy it, plus I hate not knowing the end of a story. But much like Blue @Blue's description, there's so much world building and detail and terms the author made up on one side, and the character just sort of meandering through this world not really doing anything interesting on the other. I'll go back to it eventually but for the moment I switched over to reading more of the Night Angel books by Brent Weeks that I think Devil_Dawg @Devil_Dawg suggested. It's lighter reading but I enjoy what's happening in it more.
 

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Haha... notice how many names were there... and that's only a fraction of the names that march past. At least I know which names to concentrate on now.
oh, you want important names?

paran
whiskeyjack
fiddler
Onos T'oolan
toc the younger, if he's in this book
anomander rake

there are many, many more, but these are pretty much the most important [of the characters in book 1] through the series (and not necessarily this specific book)
I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's difficult to understand book 1 until after book 3 or 4.
 
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Haha... notice how many names were there... and that's only a fraction of the names that march past. At least I know which names to concentrate on now.
oh, and this author has no problem building up a character and making you think they are important
and they either die, or you never hear from them again
 
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I'm pretty sure this will get good. But for right now it reads exactly like an archaeologist wrote it... his world building is intricate and nuanced and deep... in comparison his character building feels a little less dimensional. But right now it's such a dense read with lots to remember... my brain damage is struggling a bit with the density of the information being presented because I have no idea what is important to remember and what isn't.
I thought the same when I read them. The world was very rich, but the characters could be a little flat. And there would be connections formed between certain characters that seemed like they kinda came out of nowhere, which confused me and made me wonder a bit why I should care. But it was his first book, so I think that kinda shows. It did improve a lot by the end of the book for me, and I noticed a pretty big improvement in his writing by the second book. As a whole, I really enjoyed it.

And yeah, the names and places were a lot for me to absorb, too. I would often have to skim back through chapters that I had already read, just to be reminded of context and stuff whenever something or someone was mentioned later on. There were even instances where I would have to go back and look through previous books. It's still probably my favorite fantasy series that I've read, though.
 

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I thought the same when I read them. The world was very rich, but the characters could be a little flat. And there would be connections formed between certain characters that seemed like they kinda came out of nowhere, which confused me and made me wonder a bit why I should care. But it was his first book, so I think that kinda shows. It did improve a lot by the end of the book for me, and I noticed a pretty big improvement in his writing by the second book. As a whole, I really enjoyed it.

And yeah, the names and places were a lot for me to absorb, too. I would often have to skim back through chapters that I had already read, just to be reminded of context and stuff whenever something or someone was mentioned later on. There were even instances where I would have to go back and look through previous books. It's still probably my favorite fantasy series that I've read, though.
Yea the whole... entire.. tattersail parts were useless. Some of it was neat, but he abandoned her and used sinn and the boy for that role (I think)
 

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Yea the whole... entire.. tattersail parts were useless. Some of it was neat, but he abandoned her and used sinn and the boy for that role (I think)
Yes, the way her character was handled really bugged me.

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